“TV was a funny thing for me,” Chip said in an interview withCowboys & Indiansmagazine.

“I’m an authentic, sincere person.

So, as long as things are natural and organic, I’m in my element.

Chip Gaines poses at an event

“I just struggled with that environment.

Especially at the end of it,” Chip revealed.

“It’s like the rest of the country sadly in some ways, you know?

Chip Gaines poses for a photo

Nobody can agree on anything.

You’re either in this camp or this camp,” he joked.

As for Joanna, she acknowledged that the long hair definitely took some getting used to.

Chip also teased he’d grown it out “for a reason” other than quarantine.

“The back end of it is raising money and philanthropic,” he says.